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Greyhound Terminal - Destination Unclear 
Some Are Urging Hub Be Moved Out Of Downtown

 

By Rhonda Bodfield
ARIZONA DAILY STAR
July 21, 2003

The Greyhound bus station, a building that seems to elicit few warm memories, dominates the eastern entrance to Downtown. The depot is poised to move.

 

In a Downtown with visions of grandeur, the old Greyhound Bus terminal is like a poor relation that just won't go away. The city has made arrangements to move the generic bandbox that dominates the eastern gateway into Downtown - but the preferred option isn't far enough to satisfy some business leaders and residents who worry the depot doesn't set the right tone for a renovated city core.

 

The only thing certain for now is that the squat building that was described at its 1969 opening as "a concrete block structure in a modern treatment of traditional southwestern architecture" will no longer exist come next spring. The city wants that lot straddling Congress Street and Broadway to make way for a newly designed Fourth Avenue underpass.

 

City officials say they're looking forward to its demise in part because the old building was just ugly. Even dressing it up with a mountainscape mural in shades of brown and blue couldn't do much. But it also helps ease some safety headaches.

 

"The building is nothing special - there's nothing particularly noteworthy about the architecture," said Rio Nuevo Project Manager John Updike. "And it's not the most convenient because it's a challenge to get in and out of the site. It's also somewhat dangerous because buses are pulling out just as cars zip around the corner." Nor does anyone seem terribly attached to it. Unlike the charming stories Updike hears from people who frequented the Fox or Rialto theaters, for example, "I've never heard any old memories about what the station meant to them on their first trip in to Tucson ." A 1999 city plan calls for the station to settle in just north of the revamped historic train depot, which will open to the public for a sneak peek in October.

 

It makes sense, Updike said, to put various types of transportation modes together. Travelers are expected to be able to catch passenger rail trains at the depot, along with the trolley and rental cars and cabs. Putting bus passengers into the same mix might work. But Updike said the Tucson Downtown Alliance raised concerns about the facility staying Downtown, as did El Presidio Neighborhood north of the city-county complex. Detractors are not only worried about the potential for crime at the new site but also wonder if it would be better to build up private investment around the depot complex instead. Tucson police statistics show there have been 1,102 calls to the address since January 2000, ranging from larceny and assault to narcotics and disturbing the peace. City officials have worked with the Greyhound management to encourage more security. Part of the problem seems to be that the facility cannot restrict access to people without tickets, who are generally free to use the cafe and restrooms at the site. The new facility would be redesigned to discourage loitering.

 

But Updike said he understands the lingering concerns by neighbors. "We're asking the neighborhood to be pretty visionary. That's asking a lot of the neighborhood." Tavo Garcia, who manages the Tucson Greyhound location, said employees hope the question is settled early so employees aren't moved twice - once to an interim location and again to a permanent site. About 20 workers staff the customer service area, another nine work in the restaurant and eight drivers are based in Tucson.

 

Deanna Simsek, Greyhound's senior real estate manager, said the neighbors' concerns are misplaced given the more controlled environment that the new building will provide. "We're concerned about crime too, but we can't help the city's homeless problem. It's a city thing. It's not a Greyhound thing," Simsek said, adding that even the Downtown library attracts transients. Simsek said Greyhound isn't all that keen on an option to relocate out by the airport. And, she said, she's not thrilled with the roughly half-dozen other sites the city is pondering on the fringe of Downtown. "We need to be near our client base. The whole objective is to make it as convenient as possible."

 

Donovan Durband, who heads the Tucson Downtown Alliance, said he hopes the bus station ends up somewhere on the edge of Downtown - which is where he'd like to see the city's Ronstadt Center and its Sun Tran buses go someday. "I guess the bigger picture is that we're trying to create a visitor destination on the east end of Downtown, with the Fox and the Rialto and the Depot," Durband said. "And we're trying to create a pedestrian-oriented setting. Big buses with the exhaust coming out the back are out of scale and not compatible with creating that setting." Durband said he's afraid keeping the bus station in Downtown would eventually undermine the success of other ventures meant to attract visitors. "You wouldn't want to put a use like that next to something you're really trying to pump up as a visitor location."

 

Not everyone objects to Greyhound staying Downtown. Monica Alden, a 47-year-old radiology technician, said it makes more sense to leave it Downtown. "It's close to the Ronstadt center. And it could bring more customers Downtown - and Downtown could definitely use more customers." Kyle Casey, a 22-year-old who works at Ike's Coffee Shop Downtown, said he won't necessarily miss the old site, where he's had to pick friends up before. "It's unfortunate that a lot of people come Downtown on Broadway and that's the first thing they see," he said. But he, too, said it makes sense to keep Downtown as a full transportation hub. JoAnne Rogers, a retired interior designer who lives in a historic home in El Presidio, didn't sign the petitions when they came around. "It has to be located somewhere. I, for one, am a real downtowner. I've lived in cities all my life, and I don't feel we can just put everything in someone else's yard so there's nothing in mine.

"Bus terminals and soup kitchens and theaters are just part of life in the big city."

 

* Contact Rhonda Bodfield at 807-7789 or at rhondab@azstarnet.com

 

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